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Space Digest                Fri, 13 Aug 93       Volume 17 : Issue 018

Today's Topics:
                     A couple of space questionz.
                                 DC-X
                           Exploding Heads
          Fate of Luna samples (was Re: Moon Rocks For Sale)
      Getting Digital Pix (was Re: Mars Observer's First Photo)
                           GPS orbit info?
                  hypothetical clintonisms (2 msgs)
                        man-made meteor storm?
                   Mars Observer Update - 08/12/93
                  MESUR Pathfinder Imaging PI Named
                         Moon Rocks For Sale
              NASA's planned project management changes
                         Orbital Information
                         Simple Space Plane!
                          Space Station News
                      Starlite, Super Material?
                    The Columbus Project (2 msgs)
               Timetable for Shuttle launches in Sept.

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Date: 12 Aug 93 09:59:08 EDT
From: "John F. Woods" <[e-mail]>
Subject: A couple of space questionz.
Newsgroups: sci.space

[e-mail] (Quagga) writes:
>1) Does the term 'Periapsis' refer to a Venus orbit?

"Periapsis" is the low point of any orbit; "perigee" is the Earth-specific
equivalent.  Apoapsis (apogee) is the high point of the orbit.

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Date: 12 Aug 93 13:50:30 GMT
From: "Theodore F. Vaida ][" <[e-mail]>
Subject: DC-X
Newsgroups: sci.space

> Consider that any child that does not have
>> access to a computer before she reaches the age of 15 is peranently
>> and most likely extremely dissadvantaged in the working world today
>
>   Rediculous statement. It takes 15 min. to learn how to use a computer
>for
>most uses like word processing and stuff.
>

EHHHH... oohh so sorry, thank you for playing, we do have a year's
supply of rice'a'roni for you though...

Take it all the way through... a child that did not have access to a
computer by 15 doesnt have enough money to take the special training
classes, and did not go to a ahigh school with computer ed.  When this
child is 18 and looking for a job, try to find many companies that are
willing to teach computer skills from scratch.  I know of none,
perhaps you live in a more benign area?  Or maby the depression never
hit the area you live in? (oh, right I forgot, GB officially announced
it was over....)  Almost anyone can turn on a computer, to use one
efficently (this includes typing skills which ABSOLUTELY require a
class or some sort of self-trining (which requires a computer to do,
catch-22)) enough for a job.  I doubt that any rational employer would
choose to hier an employee that takes 30 times as long to complete an
entry or type a letter as any other applicant.  I dont know of ANY
offices (except maby some government offices like the PATENT office)
that dont have computers on the secretary's desk.
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Date: 12 Aug 1993 16:58:04 GMT
From: jeffrey a hittinger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Exploding Heads
Newsgroups: sci.space

I'm of the mind to think that the extreme cold would pretty much end it for life in space...

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Date: 12 Aug 93 13:14:53 -0600
From: Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fate of Luna samples (was Re: Moon Rocks For Sale)
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary,sci.geo.geology

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ron Baalke) writes:
> The moon dust was collected from the "first Luna mission",
> which I interpreted as meaning the first successful Luna mission that
> returned lunar soil, which would make it Luna 16.
> [...] collect 101 grams of lunar material.  [...]
> Three grams of the Luna 16 sample
> was exchanged in 1971 for 3 grams of Apollo 11 and 3 grams of Apollo 12
> lunar samples.

This raises the obvious but interesting question:  How do experiementers
get access to Luna samples?  *Lunar Sourcebook* gives fair detail on
the curation of Apollo samples, but is silent on the subject of the
Soviet samples.  If somebody wanted to study Luna 16, 20, or 24
samples, are they available?  To Russian scientists?  To other F.S.U.
scientists?  To Western scientists?  How much has been distributed to
laboratories and how much is still in a vault?

And isn't it interesting that Korolev's family had a private lunar
sample?

I recently saw a Luna sample return lander in the Alabama Space and
Rocket Center.  Mighty nice piece of equipment.  Wish we had more...

Bill Higgins          |  If we can put a man on the Moon, why can't
Fermilab              |  we put a man on the Moon? -- Bill Engfer
[e-mail] |  If we can put a man on the Moon, why can't
[e-mail]   |  we put a woman on the Moon? -- Bill Higgins

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Date: 12 Aug 93 10:09:54 -0600
From: Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Getting Digital Pix (was Re: Mars Observer's First Photo)
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Richard A. Schumacher) writes:
> Just in case anyone has missed the point:
>
> First crack at the data is the chief perk that attracts talented
> scientists to work on these missions. It's certainly not the
> money. If the data were to be released to everyone immediately,
> this perk would be lost and the principal investigators would
> have little incentive. Taken to the extreme, we would then have
> probes sending back nothing more than pretty pictures, because
> there'd be no one here to analyze and interpret them in any
> systematic way. This would not be a good return on the taxpayer's
> investment, even as pure amusement: Lucas/Spielberg movies
> would be much cheaper and have better effects.

Clearly put, but just in case anyone has missed the *other* point:

The investigators choose to release some data in the form of
photographs to the press and public.  Many of us would like to obtain
these images in digital form.  This seems a reasonable request.

In my opinion, we have a chance of seeing this boon granted if we just
keep politely asking NASA, JPL, and/or the investigators.   In the past
couple of years we've seen considerable progress in this area:

1) Ron Baalke, and others, have slapped the photos down onto scanners
and produced GIFs or JPEGs *very* soon after they're released.
(Thanks!)

2) Peter Yee has built up a wonderful FTP resource at NASA Ames chock
full of spaceflight press releases, images, and other material.

3) JPL has added an Internet node and FTP site for its Public
Information Office where one can browse a lot of images.  We may hope
that other institutions will follow suit.

4)  NASA's space science effort is seriously committed to bringing out
raw data in digital form as quickly as possible on CD-ROM-- at very
low cost.  They've done a good job on Magellan, Voyager, and Viking,
and this policy will probably continue.  Granted, this happens after
the data-embargo period, but I take it as a very encouraging sign.
The U.S. Geological Survey has provided fine services on CD-ROM,
too.

So progress has been good, but we are still in the
[digital data -> analog photographic print -> scanned digital image]
stage of development.  I think prospects are good for moving to the
next stage.

The European Space Agency now has a mailing list for press releases,
and the Space Telescope  Science Institute has an FTP site featuring
status reports and newsletters (in addition to technical stuff).  I'm
not aware that they make any images available, but it could happen
someday.

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 14:02:24 GMT
From: Andrew Rogers <[e-mail]>
Subject: GPS orbit info?
Newsgroups: sci.space

What are the orbits of the GPS system?
The NAVSTAR GPS Constellation Status shows Orbital Plane Positions like
C-1, A-1, C-4. How are these interpreted?

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 93 11:02:11 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: hypothetical clintonisms

The quote about "everybody being above average" subject I thought had begun
with some town in the usa (I think it began with an "L" but that is all i
remember) that claimed that all of its students were "above average".  It
somehow tied in to their sat scores.

One must be careful when using the word "average".  Mathematically speaking,
there is no such thing.  "Average", as we use it in language, can correspond
to the mean, mode, or median, all of which can be argued are true
representatives of the "average" of some set of data.

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Date: 12 Aug 1993 18:30:16 +0100
From: Mike C Holderness <[e-mail]>
Subject: hypothetical clintonisms
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>The quote about "everybody being above average" subject I thought had begun
>with some town in the usa (I think it began with an "L" but that is all i
>remember) that claimed that all of its students were "above average".  It
>somehow tied in to their sat scores.
>


Gosh, this "place" makes you feel old so soon...

It was the intro to Garrison Keillor's weekly series of reports from Lake
Woebegon, Michigan. It was required listening for every NPR type for yonks
up until it went off-air in 1989 or 1990. Many Net users were alive then.
It was the sort of show where you'd get seriously bqawled out for phoning
people while it was on the air -- like the Archers in dear old Blighty here.

>From memory, in Lake Woebegon "all the men are handsome, all the women are
<forget> and all the children are above average".

But I'm a furriner, so I'm allowed to get your cultural references wrong.
Do not flame unless you can explain the cultural significance of a visit by
Shula Archer to the Horobin household.

=mike=

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Date: 12 Aug 93 10:07:14 GMT
From: Bryan Carpenter <[e-mail]>
Subject: man-made meteor storm?
Newsgroups: sci.space

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Innocent Bystander) writes:

>If you really want a "man-made" meteor shower, here's what I
>would do.

>Take a good sized rocket, say delta or Titan, and fill the
>payload shroud with iron filings.  Shoot it straight up so that
>it doesn't go into orbit, but rather has a parabolic up and down
>flight with a high point of, say, 100,000 miles.  This number
>can be varied to produce the shower at the desired location.  At
>[...]

>Why iron filings.  Ever used a grinder and watched the sparks
>fly?  Same idea.  On re-entry the filings will hit the Oxygen in
>the atomsphere and glow much brighter than say sand (SiO2)
>would.


I doubt whether the chemical reaction will make much contribution to
the brightness...falling from that height, the kinetic energy is
probably going to be an order of magnitude bigger than the chemical
energy released by oxidation.

(This is a guesstimate---I'm open to correction).

Bryan

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Date: 12 Aug 1993 18:36 UT
From: Ron Baalke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mars Observer Update - 08/12/93
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary

Forwarded from the Mars Observer Project

                           MARS OBSERVER STATUS REPORT
                                August 12, 1993
                                  MOI -12 Days

The spacecraft is stable in Array Normal Spin, with X-Band communication via
the High Gain Antenna; uplink at 125 bps, downlink at the 2 kbps Engineering
data rate. One Way Light Time is 18 minutes and 34 seconds. The Payload Data
System, Gamma Ray Spectrometer, and Magnetometer/Electron Reflectometer are
powered on. Indications are that all spacecraft subsystems and the instrument
payload are performing well. Flight Sequence C13 B is active through August 17.

Flight Sequence T1 was uplinked on Friday, August 6. T1 has 2 components: T1 A
which pressurizes propellant tanks prior to the insertion burn; and T1 B which
contains maneuver execution parameters. The T1 B component currently onboard is
designated T1 B-backup. It insures that a capture maneuver will be performed,
even if communication with the ground were to be lost due to unforeseen events
on the ground. Updated T1 B maneuver parameters will be uplinked as the T1 B
load to be used for the maneuver on 8/20, 4 days prior to MOI. A command
contained in the 8/20 T1 B load terminates the T1 B-backup script.

Today the Spacecraft is 2,611,543 km (1,622,737 miles) from Mars, travelling at
a speed of 2.46 kps (5492 mph) with respect to Mars.

MOI = Mars Orbit Insertion
     ___    _____     ___
    /_ /|  /____/ \  /_ /|     Ron Baalke         | [e-mail]
    | | | |  __ \ /| | | |     Jet Propulsion Lab |
 ___| | | | |__) |/  | | |__   M/S 525-3684 Telos | When given a choice between
/___| | | |  ___/    | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | two exciting things, choose
|_____|/  |_|/       |_____|/                     | the one you haven't tried.

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Date: 12 Aug 1993 18:07 UT
From: Ron Baalke <[e-mail]>
Subject: MESUR Pathfinder Imaging PI Named
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary

Donald Savage
Headquarters, Washington, D.C.                    August 12, 1993
(Phone:  [phone])

Jim Doyle
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif
(Phone:  [phone])

RELEASE:  93-146

NASA NAMES IMAGING PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATOR FOR MESUR PATHFINDER

     Peter Smith of the University of Arizona, Tuscon, has been
named Principal Investigator for the imaging system for the MESUR
Pathfinder lander, NASA announced today.

     MESUR (for Mars Environmental Survey) Pathfinder is a small
Discovery-class mission that NASA proposes to launch to Mars in
1996 which will place a lander and rover on the surface of Mars
in 1997.  Once on the surface, the camera will obtain a 360-
degree panoramic image of the landing site and also will acquire
images of specific areas at intervals during the year-long
mission.

     Martin Marietta Astronautics Group, Denver, Colo., was named
as the prime instrument contractor.  The Max Planck Institute for
Aeronomy, Lindau, Germany, will provide the image detector and
its supporting electronics.

     Smith's proposal for an imaging system for the MESUR
Pathfinder lander was submitted earlier this year in response to
a NASA announcement of opportunity for the mission.  Dr. Wesley
Huntress, NASA Associate Administrator for the Office of Space
Science, Washington, D.C. was the selecting official.

Imaging System Description

     The camera is a side-by-side charged-coupled device (CCD)
stereo imager which sits on top of a "jack-in-the-box" mast that
pops up one meter above the lander.  The camera has a 12-position
color filter wheel and is fully controllable in both elevation
and side-to-side (azimuth) motion.  The optics do not require
active focusing.

     The field of view for each eye is 14.4 degrees square and
has a resolution of six-tenths of a millimeter near the lander.

     The filter wheel contains eight color filters optimized for
Mars geology, three color filters for atmospheric water vapor and
dust measurements and one broadband filter for stereo imaging
with both eyes.

     The camera will be used for science experiments, including
filter-wheel spectral mapping of the landing site to determine
its composition and to identify rocks which may be designated as
targets for further investigation.  Spectral mapping also will
study weathering processes and products in the dust, soil and
rocks of Mars.

     Images also will be taken to study phenomena which occur
over time, such as frost, dune formation and seasonal changes.

     NASA also announced the selection of Dr. Jens Martin Knudsen
of the University of Copenhagen as a co-investigator, to provide
a magnetic properties investigation for the mission in
conjunction with Smith's team.  He will provide five magnets of
varying strengths to capture wind-blown magnetic dust particles.

     Other co-investigators for the imaging experiment are Drs.
Robert Singer, Martin Tomasko, Lyn Doose and Daniel Britt, all of
the University of Arizona, Tuscon;  Dr. Larry Soderblom, U.S.
Geological Survey, Flagstaff, Ariz., and Dr. H. Uwe Keller, Max
Planck Institute for Aeronomy.

     The Arizona team proposed to develop and deliver camera
hardware and one flight instrument, accompanied by operational
and data compression software.  The effort, estimated at $5
million in fiscal year 1992 dollars, will culminate with the
delivery of the flight imaging system in late 1995.

     The MESUR Pathfinder will use a small robotic rover to
explore the region within about 50 meters of the landing site.
In contrast to the three-color imaging provided by the two Viking
landers in the late 1970s, the MESUR Pathfinder lander imaging
system will be capable of imaging in a variety of spectral bands
to determine mineral content within view of the lander.

     The spectral channels are particularly sensitive to iron and
pyroxene minerals -- dark, silicon-based, crystal-like rocks.

     The primary mission is for 1 month on the surface of Mars,
with a goal of 1 year of extended mission.

     NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., will
manage the MESUR Pathfinder mission for NASA's Office of Space
Science, Headquarters, Washington, D.C.

- end -
     ___    _____     ___
    /_ /|  /____/ \  /_ /|     Ron Baalke         | [e-mail]
    | | | |  __ \ /| | | |     Jet Propulsion Lab |
 ___| | | | |__) |/  | | |__   M/S 525-3684 Telos | When given a choice between
/___| | | |  ___/    | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | two exciting things, choose
|_____|/  |_|/       |_____|/                     | the one you haven't tried.

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Date: 12 Aug 1993 15:13 UT
From: Ron Baalke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Moon Rocks For Sale
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary,sci.geo.geology

I found out more about the moon rocks that will be on the auction block
in December.  The rocks were advertised as "rock fragments", but after
talking to the auction house, they admitted it is more closer to being
moon dust.  The moon dust was collected from the "first Luna mission",
which I interpreted as meaning the first successful Luna mission that
returned lunar soil, which would make it Luna 16.  Luna 16 was launched
on September 12, 1970 and soft landed on the Moon on September 20.  A drill
was used to collect 101 grams of lunar material.  The lunar sample
was returned to Earth on September 24.  Three grams of the Luna 16 sample
was exchanged in 1971 for 3 grams of Apollo 11 and 3 grams of Apollo 12
lunar samples.  The Luna 16 lunar material that will be auctioned off is a very
small sample and my impression was that there is less than a gram there.
The moon dust is encased in a metal box with a clear plastic top, and as far as
I can determine has been sealed in this box for at least 20 years.
     ___    _____     ___
    /_ /|  /____/ \  /_ /|     Ron Baalke         | [e-mail]
    | | | |  __ \ /| | | |     Jet Propulsion Lab |
 ___| | | | |__) |/  | | |__   M/S 525-3684 Telos | When given a choice between
/___| | | |  ___/    | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | two exciting things, choose
|_____|/  |_|/       |_____|/                     | the one you haven't tried.

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Date: 12 Aug 1993 13:10:55 -0400
From: Pat <[e-mail]>
Subject: NASA's planned project management changes
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Allen W. Sherzer) writes:
>Charities don't procure in a way that doubles the cost of anything.
>(I wouldn't donate to any that did anyway). Sure accounting methods


Obviously Alan is not familiar with either the American Red Cross
or United Way.

every time you make a payroll contribution,  you are
helping fly their corporate jet.

pat
--
I don't care if it's true.  If it sounds good, I will
publish it.  Frank Bates Publisher  Frank Magazine.

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Date: 12 Aug 1993 16:25:10 GMT
From: "George C. Kaplan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orbital Information
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (&) writes:
|> Specifically, a sun-synchronous orbit has the following properties.
|> This is taken verbatim from my Observational Astronomy lecture
|> notes, ...
|>
|> [ description of sun-synchronous polar orbits ]
|>                              ... This means that,
|> for a spacecraft pointed outward above the terminator, fixed solar panels
|> will always face the Sun, and the field of view (if wide enough) will sweep
|> over the entire sky every 6 months. This has been used for the IRAS,
|> ROSAT, and EUVE missions.
              ^^^^

EUVE's orbit is inclined 28.5 degrees; it's the easiest orbit to reach from
Cape Canaveral.  Since the sun-synchronous orbits are polar (actually, slightly
retrograde) satellites using it have to be launched toward the west, which
isn't done from Florida (for safety reasons).

--
George C. Kaplan                Internet:  [e-mail]
                                   Phone:  [phone]

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Date: 12 Aug 1993 13:16:00 -0400
From: Pat <[e-mail]>
Subject: Simple Space Plane!
Newsgroups: sci.space

 If i recall, teh ASAT terminal package, is a bout
the size of a tomato can,  i had a job offer from
LTV to write the ballistic trajectory programs for
the bird.  it owuld have been a cool job,  but
i thought the program was far too sensitive as a political
football.  not that i would have minded working
in Texas,  then McCall and I could have
argued locally :-)

pat
--
I don't care if it's true.  If it sounds good, I will
publish it.  Frank Bates Publisher  Frank Magazine.

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Date: 12 Aug 1993 09:30:55 U
From: "Dugan.Timothy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Space Station News

Why does Space Digest so rarely mention details about the space station
program?  Is it because of limited interest or because of limited information?

Assuming it is due to a lack of available information, I have attached an
abridged copy of a McDonnell Douglas publication called Space Station Today,
issue number 42.

===========

From:   Williams.Jody
Date:   Tue, Aug 10, 1993 1:38 PM
Subject:        "Space Station Today" #42

===========

Program Status and Summary --  The NASA Administrator has convened a panel of
high-level NASA officials who will provide an assessment for use in the
selection of the host center and prime contractor.  The team includes
representatives from NASA's Office of the Administrator, General Counsel and
Procurement, and from Reston, Johnson Space Center, and Marshall Space Flight
Center.  The first meeting was scheduled for yesterday [August 9]; the naming
of the host center and prime contractor is expected to be made soon.

Contrary to a number of rumors being circulated, neither the host center nor
prime contractor has been selected.  [ TEXT DELETED ]

===========

Following is a brief summary of other program-related news:

- On Friday, July 30, Transition Director Bryan O'Connor kicked off a
month-long series of activities to be conducted with the 25-member Russian
delegation now located at the Transition Team's headquarters in Crystal City,
VA.  Three NASA teams are working with the delegation to explore potential
Russian contributions to the U.S. Space Station program, and more generally, to
study a broad range of possible U.S./Russian human space cooperation in the
future.  The Russian team is led by Boris Ostroumov, deputy director of the
Russian Space Agency.

- An interim U.S./Russian Space Cooperation Report is to be complete by August
16; the final report is due at the end of the month.

- In an interview with Alabama journalists, reported in Space News, August 9,
U.S. President Bill Clinton vowed to ensure the Space Station survives in the
Senate.  He said that the need to maintain a U.S. technological base in the
wake of the Cold War's end is a central reason he supports the Space Station.

- NASA employees now have until August 26 to apply for the 300 new positions in
the Space Station Program Office.  The office will be located at the NASA host
center.  The total number of NASA Space Station employees is capped at 1,000.

- Effort continues to integrate current Space Station Freedom Program
activities with ongoing transition activities at Crystal City.  The Transition
Team continues to review the redesigned Space Station hardware and program
structure.  An internal design review based on Option A is planned for late
next week, leading to an interim progress briefing to the Administration in
mid-August.  MDA continues to support the review activities and will
participate in the design review.

===========

[ TEXT DELETED ]

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Date: 12 Aug 1993 13:21:07 -0400
From: Pat <[e-mail]>
Subject: Starlite, Super Material?
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:
|In article <2496ce$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Pat) writes:
|>So wha'ts the dean drive?
|
|Your education is severely lacking. The Dean drive is a reactionless
|drive system based on swinging weights and timed application of braking
|impulses. It demonstrates that a device can fool a spring scale into
|indicating an object weighs less than it does. What it isn't is a real
>propulsion system.

Back when i had a subscription to analog in the 70's  they had
some articles on various issues related to reactionless drive.

i never thought much of it  because it seemed to violate newtons'
basic laws of motion.  I just remember one corresponedent claiming
it pushed against his hand.  An e-mail correspondent  sent me
the entire article typed in  from the originals.

i had forgotten  what the system was called,  and didn't think
it had ever gotten much attention.

Now how about the Flanagan Nuero-phone.  anything new on that?

pat

--
I don't care if it's true.  If it sounds good, I will
publish it.  Frank Bates Publisher  Frank Magazine.

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 16:44:21 GMT
From: SNYDER GARY EDWIN JR <[e-mail]>
Subject: The Columbus Project
Newsgroups: sci.space

        I receintly found a reference to 'the columbus project' by Hyde
Ishikawa, and Wood. It seems to be a plan for a lunar
expedition/settlement. I imagine it was an article somewhere but I can't
seem to find it. Does anyone know what and where this is?

thanks,
g.

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Date: 12 Aug 93 17:59:26 GMT
From: hvanderbilt on BIX <[e-mail]>
Subject: The Columbus Project
Newsgroups: sci.space

[e-mail] (SNYDER GARY EDWIN JR) writes:

>       I receintly found a reference to 'the columbus project' by Hyde
>Ishikawa, and Wood. It seems to be a plan for a lunar
>expedition/settlement. I imagine it was an article somewhere but I can't
>seem to find it. Does anyone know what and where this is?

>thanks,
>g.

That's Roderick Hyde, Muriel Ishikawa, and Lowell Wood, of Lawrence Livermore.
I used to have a copy of the paper around here, but blest if I can find it.
As best I recall, it was a proposal to use a Shuttle-Centaur derived lander
plus inflatable structures to establish a quick&dirty Lunar base.

                                Henry Vanderbilt -- [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 17:16:48 GMT
From: deepak kenchammana-hosekote <[e-mail]>
Subject: Timetable for Shuttle launches in Sept.
Newsgroups: nasa.oast,nasa.oast.supersite,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space

Hi,

    I will be visiting FL for the first time this September and would
love to see a shuttle launch from Cape Canaveral. If any of your folks
have a launch timetable for this year could you mail it to me so that
I could plan to be there for any one in September?

    I'd love to hear people's experiences/advice regarding the
trip/tour of the launch centre.

    Thanks a lot!

\deepak
\PS I'm not sure what the charter  of nasa.oast.* is (since it has
been empty out here). If I was in error posting to this group then
please forgive the ignorance.
--
"Instead of concentrating just on finding good answers to questions,
it's more important to learn how to find good questions!" - D.E.K.

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